posted by [identity profile] madam-silvertip.livejournal.com at 08:44pm on 15/07/2007
Never thought of looking at nature that way. I had pretty much resigned myself to nature=fetal position and howling sobs.
 
posted by [identity profile] skylarker.livejournal.com at 09:22pm on 15/07/2007
I love nature - at a safe distance. :)
 
posted by [identity profile] madam-silvertip.livejournal.com at 09:27pm on 15/07/2007
Haven't yet found the thing that gives me a safe emotional distance in the greenhouse era. Nature=traumatic grief, but I have to find a way to get around that.
 
posted by [identity profile] skylarker.livejournal.com at 11:00pm on 15/07/2007
I just read Kim Stanley Robinson's trilogy: 40 Signs of Rain, 50 Degrees Below and 60 Days and Counting. He writes with a solid scientific grounding, and a good sense of political realities and manages to create a convincing case for the possibility of ecological recovery.
 
posted by [identity profile] madam-silvertip.livejournal.com at 11:03pm on 15/07/2007
THANKS. I have to look that up.

After Katrina and "Inconvenient Truth," at least I don't feel as alone with it as once, and now that my generation is turning forty we're not as ignored as we once were--e.g. our formative years when we lived in one emotional world and our parents in another, of denial. It would be an interesting sociological study to find what that did to us--nuclear terror, environmental terror, and the hermetic seal of babyboom self-absorption. Add in colossal parental divorce rate and unemployment during twenties and thirties, and it would be interesting to see what we have to tell the world.
 
posted by [identity profile] skylarker.livejournal.com at 12:23am on 16/07/2007
I do recommend these books.

One of the positive spins on the issue is that the older, pre-baby boom, pre-environmental awareness generations are passing on and the ones who care about these issues are coming into maturity and positions of power and influence.
 
posted by [identity profile] madam-silvertip.livejournal.com at 12:31am on 16/07/2007
Oddly enough, it's the baby boomers I fault most. It's like they knew and didn't do anything other than navelgaze. I know that sounds harsh, but I hear more environmental awareness from people older than baby boom.

Maybe having Bush as the baby boomer president right now has made me more cynical. Or maybe it's that I think the baby boomers took lousy care of my generation. If we were Gen X, whose fault was that??????
 
posted by [identity profile] skylarker.livejournal.com at 12:38am on 16/07/2007
Bush certainly doesn't represent my values, or those of most of the other baby boomers I know. Of course, me and most of those I know are from the tail end of the baby boomer bunch. I grew up hearing about environmental issues. It's something that was always a concern in my family, growing up.
 
posted by [identity profile] madam-silvertip.livejournal.com at 12:43am on 16/07/2007
That's one of the weird things about Bush, that he so does not represent the majority. Of course I didn't judge the boomers by Clinton either.

I pegged you as being from the younger end--I couldn't tell if you were younger baby boom, or older gen-X like me and most of my friends. The older end of baby boom (born during the war or just after) also are usually very cool. The middle ones (47-48 especially) are the most mixed bag in my experience.

Though this is a generalization, and an ill-tempered one, so not cool by definition. I still think the baby boom can do great things. Most generations do their best work in their sixties.
 
posted by [identity profile] skylarker.livejournal.com at 12:47am on 16/07/2007
If nothing else, it will be interesting to see what our generations do in the coming years.
 
posted by [identity profile] madam-silvertip.livejournal.com at 12:55am on 16/07/2007
I keep thinking I should try to keep a diary like Anne Frank's or Etty Hillesum's or Mary Chesnut's--that it may be of some historical value in the future. Except I had nothing coherent to say about Katrina except humina-humina-humina and anticipate more of the same...

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